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Post by winglessflight on Nov 19, 2006 21:56:38 GMT
I think a section to collect all the live audio/video together would be extremely helpful.
I've stumbled across several old files recently that I initially missed!
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Post by admin on Nov 8, 2007 22:21:11 GMT
Hi Chantelle, I have just been reading through some old posts and I came across this one. I am sorry we didn't respond to it sooner.  Although I can see the benefits of doing as you suggest, nearly all the audio and video footage posted to the forum relates directly to an existing discussion. That may be news of a radio or television appearance, or a live concert. I think we have to continue to post all coverage in the appropriate thread for the sake of continuity. However, the most important audio and video footage is also uploaded to the main site where it can be accessed from the RadioAAI menu, or the Video Vault. Hopefully, that will enable you to see everything you wish.  Roger |
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Post by Northern_Lights on Nov 9, 2007 21:24:13 GMT
Although I'd love to agree with you Roger, so many videos have been taken off HWI that I think a board with screencaps and other places they are located would have been very helpful. I hope that this doesn't happen to AAI because it would just be too sad losing AA vids. Therefore, I agree with WinglessFlight.
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Post by winglessflight on Nov 9, 2007 21:28:19 GMT
Maybe if we could develop a "tagging" system... Something like A) a special word or character in the title of a thread, indicating that it contains audio/video (or pictures) B) a special word to appear in specific posts containing media that could be searched for to quickly locate all of aforementioned posts... It would have to be a word that would NEVER be used in a normal post, like, oh, I don't know... "supercalifragilous,etc" so you wouldn't get false search results... Just some thoughts. I can definitely see how a whole additional forum section would mess up the system, Roger. |
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Post by dazza on Nov 9, 2007 22:50:56 GMT
Hi Everyone,
I agree with Chantelle, but I agree with Roger too! ;D
I think that it is very important to post coverage in the related thread as it happens.
But I also think that it would be good to have some kind of archive with ALL videos rather than the most important ones. It would not only be a good source for future reference but it would also be easier for new members such as myself to catch up on old videos and audio recordings as looking through old threads things can easily be missed.
Dazza
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Post by admin on Nov 10, 2007 0:51:32 GMT
First of all, many thanks to Northern Lights, Wingless Flight and Dazza for your thoughts on this important topic. I will give an initial response now and then give it some further though in the days to come. Although I'd love to agree with you Roger, so many videos have been taken off HWI that I think a board with screencaps and other places they are located would have been very helpful. I hope that this doesn't happen to AAI because it would just be too sad losing AA vids. Therefore, I agree with WinglessFlight. I would like to point out that nothing has been deliberately removed from HWI. The reason that many videos are no longer currently available is because we had a major problem with the server about 18 months ago. To cut a long and tedious story short, the result was that thousands of links were broken sitewide. Simon, the site owner at the time, began the task of fixing them. Sadly, Simon passed away in June of this year by which time, Dave and I had already taken over both sites (HWI and AAI). It is part of our long-term plan that all videos on HWI will be restored but, for obvious reasons, priority must be given to all current news and, of course, the time that we can devote to running websites, is limited. Maybe if we could develop a "tagging" system... Something like A) a special word or character in the title of a thread, indicating that it contains audio/video (or pictures) B) a special word to appear in specific posts containing media that could be searched for to quickly locate all of aforementioned posts... It would have to be a word that would NEVER be used in a normal post, like, oh, I don't know... "supercalifragilous,etc" so you wouldn't get false search results... Yes, I quite like that idea. The problem is, we often don't know that a thread will eventually contain a video when it is started. That puts additional responsibility on the Moderators to edit the first post of the thread once the video is added. In practise, that would almost certainly have to be Dave (who is our video guy and webmaster). So, apart from capturing the video, editing it, downsizing it, uploading it to the site, adding the details on the Video Menu page, adding it to the relevant thread on the forum, etc, etc, you now want him to learn how to spell Supercalifragiwotsit! I think he just might blow a fuse at that!  Again, time is at a premium and I regret there is only a certain amount that he/we can do. Hi Everyone, I agree with Chantelle, but I agree with Roger too! ;D I think that it is very important to post coverage in the related thread as it happens. But I also think that it would be good to have some kind of archive with ALL videos rather than the most important ones. It would not only be a good source for future reference but it would also be easier for new members such as myself to catch up on old videos and audio recordings as looking through old threads things can easily be missed. Dazza That is another option but it would lead to a considerable amount of duplication on the forum (eventually). We know from experience that many members can only spend a short amount of time on the forum and we would not want their time to be wasted in clicking a link in two different posts which lead to the same video. Despite my apparent negativity, there are possibilities here and, as I said at the start of this post, I will think on. If Dave or Richard wish to comment, please do so. Roger |
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Post by winglessflight on Nov 10, 2007 0:59:24 GMT
Yes, I quite like that idea. The problem is, we often don't know that a thread will eventually contain a video when it is started. That puts additional responsibility on the Moderators to edit the first post of the thread once the video is added. In practise, that would almost certainly have to be Dave (who is our video guy and webmaster). So, apart from capturing the video, editing it, downsizing it, uploading it to the site, adding the details on the Video Menu page, adding it to the relevant thread on the forum, etc, etc, you now want him to learn how to spell Supercalifragiwotsit! I think he just might blow a fuse at that!  Again, time is at a premium and I regret there is only a certain amount that he/we can do. was only a suggestion!  Dear me... That would be terrible to have somebody spell that out each time they posted media... ;D ;D And I realize "tagging" an entire thread isn't quite practical, which is why I also suggested tagging an individual post, that way as someone posted a movie or audio they would just have the quick extra step of adding one word... (NOT Super, ah, you know  ) |
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Post by richnorri on Nov 10, 2007 8:27:14 GMT
Hello everybody! I don't see any advantage in having a board on the forum solely for videos, as it would cause too much duplication of discussion. The best place to keep them all together is on the main site. Best Wishes, Richard  |
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Post by Northern_Lights on Nov 10, 2007 12:53:35 GMT
I understand, and if this doesn't happen with AAI, there would be no advantage to this. But if something DOES happen to AAI, there should be a backup, as there are some real jems there! I hope that someday HWI gets all the videos back, and if I find any rare news videos anywhere, I'd be happy to let someone on HWI know about them so they can be added to the site. Also, although this is random, does HWI want more pics of Hayley? I know of quite a few that aren't on HWI!
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Post by admin on Nov 10, 2007 15:53:18 GMT
Hello everybody! I don't see any advantage in having a board on the forum solely for videos, as it would cause too much duplication of discussion. The best place to keep them all together is on the main site. Hi everyone, I am inclined to agree with Richard's suggestion that the best place to keep videos together is on the main site. To give additional links to each of them from a dedicated board on this forum would not solve anything if the site were to disappear for any reason - that second link would point nowhere. And so we come to the subject of back-ups. This is already being done. Dave and I have both sites (HWI and AAI) fully backed up on disc. If the entire contents of AAI were to disappear for any reason, we could have everything uploaded again within a few days. What we don't have is a back-up of HWI as it appeared two years ago before the links were broken - because we weren't running the site then. However, all the *missing* videos are not really missing. They are still on HWI but the links became broken when there were difficulties with the server. It is merely a question of fixing those broken links to enable the videos to be accessed again. That is a very time-consuming exercise and, as I said yesterday, we must give priority to all current news items. Roger |
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Post by dazza on Nov 10, 2007 21:19:23 GMT
Hi Richard and Roger,
Thanks, though I think that it would have been nice to have some sort of archive I can certainly see the reasons not too, so I am happy with this decision.
Dazza
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Post by Dave on Nov 10, 2007 22:04:15 GMT
Hello everyone, Roger you've covered everything really so there's not much I can add. However, the "missing" videos at HWI are really only missing for 2005 (and I've recently started reinstating the best of the 2005 videos). If anyone cannot locate them (the few from 2005) or all the other years, then they are clicking in the wrong place. The residual broken links may be the real problem so if you can't find a video Index Page or videos for every year, let us know and we will clarify. Restoring everything would all be very easy but for one thing: we have to make videos difficult to download (stream them) and with the way the site is presently designed, that is time consuming. We cannot just post direct links to each video as we sometimes do in the forum. If only we could, it would all become very quick and easy then. The HWI and AAI websites are the archives - but not everything will be uploaded - just the most important and best of them. One thing that certainly will be uploaded though is tonight's appearance of All Angels in Festival Of Remembrance... Cheers, Dave |
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Post by admin on Nov 10, 2007 23:29:43 GMT
One thing that certainly will be uploaded though is tonight's appearance of All Angels in Festival Of Remembrance... Good, coz I missed it.  Roger PS. Next time they're on, I'm taking the phone off the hook! |
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Post by Northern_Lights on Nov 24, 2007 13:30:33 GMT
Good idea!
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